Based on Brian's promise of 50 horses I want the unorthodox pulley :) No, really I was thinking about getting it anyway, I was just nervious because I thought I had to grind some ring off the engine block. But mooving on, who has the best prices on these - Brian where did you get yours from? It shouldent take more than an hour to install, right? But still, why only one pulley? Would it be expensive/reasonable-results to get a machine shop to make lighter accesory pulleys? I mean if one is 3 horse's, wouldnt all 4 be 12? I'd be willing to bet the torque gains are higher than the HP gains, just going by dynos I've seen on Mustangs with pulleys installed. Patrick 'set@...' -- Give it a shot 'http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=FCQ-517' Why Not?

The installation of a Pulley is independant of the power output off an engine. If you have two identical engines, that redline at the same rpm, but one puts out 100 horse and the other puts out 150, assuming all the "assesories" are the same the same gains will be seen from the addition of a pulley. The gains from a pulley are two fold. First is the reduction in rotating mass, and two is the reduction "drive speed" for the assesories (distibutor, pumps, etc) which results in less "power consumption" of these components, and because the components are identical, and being driven at the same speeds (in example above) the gains will be identical. You can not confuse gains from a pulley with gains associated with "breathing mods" (intake, cams, exhaust, etc.) Now if you take two identical engines and one puts out 100 horses and the other puts out 150, but the one with 150 redlines at 9000, while the other redlines at 7000, then you will see different gains, because the 150 horse engine is now turning at much higher rpm's, in which situation the "drag" from the assesories will be much greater, and with the installation of a pulley the gains will be much greater. I hope that makes some sense. Bryan Pendleton >

Talk with Eddie Wu of CB Performance. He can get one for you for about $140. And tell him Bryan Pendleton with Probenet sent you. You will get an extra fifty percent off. OK, I pulling your chain, but perhaps I can establish a relationship this way, and we can get some discounts. I don't have any of his contact info because I had a hard drive failure, so all my "connections" are lost. 8-) Enjoy, Bryan Pendleton >

Oh and one other thing. If you pick up some extra accessory pulleys from a salvage yard, and send it to them (UR), they said they can make a kit, or at least turn you some light weight pulleys. It may take them a long time (as it will not have priority), but they said they would do it. Oh, and if you do that, tell them Bryan Pendleton with ProbeNet sent you. They owe me a favor. After promising me a flywheel in two weeks, and now it been around 8 months and I am still hounding the manufacturer, they even have my clutch now. Note this is Mueller Fabricators not UR. UR gave me my money back, but I will still be getting my flywheel. I plan to pick up some cam gears soon, because I desparately would like to get my hands on some adjustable cam gears. Push the power band around a little and may pick up 10 or more ponies. Don't listen to me and the numbers, I just pulled those out of my behind. But most 4 cyl I have heard of when properly tuned on a dyno can pick up 10-15 horses with those thing, plus you can move the power band a little. Bryan Pendleton >